Open Waters Podcast
This podcast is all about what God is doing in Utah through the church, and through the ministry of Open Waters Worship. If you don't know who we are, we are a worship ministry in the heart of Salt Lake City, Utah who's reason for being is JESUS. We want all people to have GROWTH, not only in relationship with our King, but with the people around us as well. We also want people to cultivate a deep and pure INTIMACY with God, and from that intimacy a FREEDOM to be who we are called to be; and to top it off we want the body of Christ to radiate UNITY. The body as a whole can accomplish so much more than one person alone. So we want to ask you, are you ready to join us in an effort to unify the body, and grow in relationship? Are you ready for what true intimacy with the King looks like? If so, come give us a listen! We'd love to hear your feedback as well. Tell us your thoughts and if you have a question feel free to reach out to us! We love you and pray for an overflowing in all avenues of your life <3
Open Waters Podcast
51: Navigating Truth and Faith in Uncertain Times
Are you prepared to navigate the complexities of finding truth in these uncertain times? In our latest episode, we promise a heartfelt and thought-provoking discussion on the critical practice of discerning truth and remaining steadfast in your faith. We kick things off with an important update regarding the Open Waters worship schedule, explaining why we’ve shifted our worship nights to the first Saturday of each month at 2 pm, and how this change aims to better serve our community while considering holiday breaks. Our commitment to incorporating more biblical foundations into our content is stronger than ever, as we stress the importance of staying true to scriptural teachings amidst widespread misinformation.
What if you could distinguish the voice of the Holy Spirit from your own feelings in a world brimming with conflicting information? We delve into this essential practice, reflecting on the wisdom from James 1:6-8 and the dangers of double-mindedness. We explore the instability it brings and underscore the necessity of having a solid foundation in faith, centered on God's kingdom and abiding in Him, as illustrated in John 15. By staying connected to the Lord, we can navigate through doubt and uncertainty with clarity and confidence, fostering a deeper connection to divine truth.
Finally, we highlight the profound impact of remaining tethered to truth in worship. Abiding in Jesus, as described in John 15 and John 17, empowers us to bear good fruit and spread His truth effectively. For worship leaders, this connection is crucial, as their spiritual clarity directly impacts their leadership and the worship experience of their community. As we wrap up, we express our gratitude to our listeners, encouraging them to share their thoughts and stay connected with us. We send our love, blessings, and prayers to everyone tuning in, and eagerly look forward to continuing this journey of faith and truth together.
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what's going on? Family uh people from the internet people from the internet.
Lisa Campbell:People from the internet. How are you? We're so glad to be bringing you another open waters podcast vlog. Yes, flash, I cut you off, so sorry okay, I'm just saying welcome.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:It's been a long time away, so we're going to be get back into some things.
Lisa Campbell:So yeah, I think one of the biggest things to just kind of hit off the top, because we like to just touch on a few things is just we've been trying to wrestle around with and mess around with, trying to find a day and time that works best for people for the actual worship night that we do, and so we used to have it on Saturdays at 6. And then we right, is that right? Yeah, it used to be 7, we switched to 6. And then we went to Sundays.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Sundays at 4 pm. Yeah, and then now we are going back to the original Saturdays. The very first Saturday of the month. So every. Saturday if you're on the first Saturday, you should head over to Open Waters. If you ever want to email a reminder, feel free to put a comment in the chat. Yeah, we'll be happy to send that.
Lisa Campbell:So our time that we've decided on on late again, we're going to try this out and see what works best for everybody, because while we're not looking for numbers, we are looking to find a time that works for people who do want to be there, that they can actually be there. So we're looking at 2 pm the first Saturday of every month. We're going to finish out the year probably doing that. We might take off some time for the holidays like we usually do.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:So essentially, for September, october. Well, actually it's the first Saturday, so I don't think there'll be any issues. Okay, for instance, we're not doing like the second and fourth anymore, we're doing the first. That would be no issue. I don't think.
Lisa Campbell:Okay, except for maybe the first Saturday of January.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Okay, might be too close to New Year's.
Lisa Campbell:So for sure, for September, october, november, december and 2024, can you believe that's all we have left? That's mind-boggling to me. Anyway, so that will be meeting on the first Saturday of the month at 2 pm and just please be staying tuned to Instagram, to wherever you're watching us on YouTube, spotify listening, if wherever you're watching us on YouTube, spotify listening, if you're listening to us on any other streaming source, just be sure to listen and find out. You can also, like Josiah said, email him at openwaterworship at gmailcom.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Yeah, cool. Well, podcast related things. We kind of took a sabbatical just because we had people on vacation. We went on vacation with the family and now we're just trying to get back in the swing of things. But also, I think one thing we're going to focus on is a little bit more of a biblical foundation. Okay, more Bible verses and topics, just because then we have a biblical foundation.
Lisa Campbell:Yeah.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:It ties really well into what we're talking about today. Yeah, that is.
Lisa Campbell:Well, I have really had it in my heart to stay true, stay close to the truth. I don't know, I don't have a flashy way of saying it, but I just feel like, everywhere we look, I really honestly I hate to always look back to COVID. This was happening way beforehand. I think God just exposed a lot, which I'm so grateful for, even though it's painful sometimes in the exposure, but it just more than ever feels like what is truth, what is up is actually down, what is down is actually up, what is right is wrong, and what is right what is wrong.
Lisa Campbell:And even if you try to look up information, it used to be we had something physical like an encyclopedia, or you know stuff that was bonafide, solidified. Now you, you know you text. You say Google, hey, google. You know stuff that was bona fide, solidified. Now you, you know you text. You say google, hey, google. You know, or hey, siri, or hey, alexa, and who knows what source they're coming from, if they're coming from a truly truthful source or if they're not.
Lisa Campbell:We see so much happening in the church. I mean I had a friend who there's been. You know we've seen a lot of pastors, big time leaders, fall from a lot of different places that stuff is getting coming out and exposing. So that makes like this one that just happened recently was with Gateway, and I know it happened a long time ago, but it's coming to the surface and there's more information about it and one of my friends, for instance, was just totally thrown because it's like all that you've believed or you know this person that you looked up to for for guidance and truth in your life. Now there's these things being exposed and while we're all human and things happen you know this is when you're in leadership. You have to there's a certain level of responsibility because you're leading people, you're pastoring, you're shepherding.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:These are like sheep and children and all kinds of stuff, and so even within, like the Bible talks about, like Paul when he's writing to believe. I just read in Ephesians that he's gonna be accounted for for all things, to teaching yeah and so even in many times throughout the New Testament.
Lisa Campbell:It's like saying people like if you're a pastor, yeah, you're gonna be a cat, that's, you're gonna be Pretty much judged as a pastor and you're a shepherd, right, and so I mean whether you're a worship leader of a team or you lead worship like you're a weekly leader, or you lead portions of a team or you are leading in any capacity in, especially if you are the leader leader of the ministry or the pastor of the ministry. We have got to be so clothed and so tied to, so tethered to, yoked to the lord in these days, because everything is upside down and while the darkness is becoming darker and the light is becoming lighter, there, there's so much confusion in between. How many beautiful people do you know that are really love God, but yet they're believing some things that you're like? What in the world? How can you believe that? And some of it is.
Lisa Campbell:It doesn't matter, but some of it is major truth that some of it's been debated through history, some of it is. There is a right and wrong. Not everything is gray. There are some things that are right, there are some things that are wrong. There are some things that are truth. There are some things that are falsehood. It's not just whatever I believe is. What is truth? My truth? No, that's not truth, it's God's truth, and I just think it's so important that we, especially as worship leaders, are really tethered to truth, tied to truth, because we are releasing what we are tethered to. We are releasing, and it's not even what we believe, it's just staying to the truth, staying to what he says. What he says are true. The debatable matters don't matter. We can, you know. That's why there are denominations that have preserved stuff. But truth is truth and I so, yeah for sure, I'm gonna look up something while we're, while you're and maybe you have a definition for truth.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:So what is truth?
Lisa Campbell:Well, I mean, I think, well, I can look up a definition. I mean, if you want to look up one, I mean I can kind of pull one out of my butt, pull one out of your butt, go ahead, let's see what you do. Let's see what you do with it.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:I mean my definition for truth is something that's backed up by fact and has been tried and true throughout history. I fact, and has been tried and true throughout history. I mean, like the bible. You can recount all the events in the bible have been proven true by science, history and fact, and even like the resurrection of jesus christ, everything that they're finding is just pointing towards that. That's an actual event that happened and it's just. This is true, this has just been, this has yet to be disproven, so I guess it's another thing. That's something that's yet to be disproven, so I guess it's another thing.
Lisa Campbell:That's something that's yet to be disproven, so the hard part is with that.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Things are being this is what I'm talking about.
Lisa Campbell:We live in a time where things have been, even what has been really happened is not like is being discounted or that kind of thing.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Regardless of how people feel, like people say, oh is being discounted or that kind of thing. I mean regardless of how people feel.
Lisa Campbell:Like people say, oh, I'm a female, but even the history books may say certain things yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Yeah, even like the, but it's a fact.
Lisa Campbell:I mean, well and like, even with the Olympics, the leader of the Olympics just came out and said they're like can't you define a woman? No, we can't actually define a woman. Scientifically, we can't define a woman. So people are saying some of those things that you're saying, and yet it can be, you know and and so, but yet it's being said that it can't be.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Truth doesn't have feelings, guys. Don't listen to media, don't listen to the crap.
Lisa Campbell:But they would say it's science I mean so. So this is, I'll read what I like the Webster's Dictionary, because it goes back to what's that? Yes, I like to go back to that. I like the Webster's 1828, but this is the Merriam-Webster, but the body of real events and facts, actuality, the state of being, the case, fact, which is what you all, what you said Um, the property of, as of a statement, of being accord with fact or reality, fidelity to an original or to a standard, and I think that's what I would say would be our, what I'm defining as truth is fidelity to an original or to a standard, and I would say to the original and to the standard would be right here. And I really like what I may have said.
Lisa Campbell:The Bible, by the way, I pointed to the Bible I really like. I went to my friend's church and the pastor there it was a church in Tooele said, because I'm like really having this revelation about the Bible that we've talked about, and I might've said this already, but he said the Bible doesn't tell us what happened, it tells us what always happens. And he gave some really good examples of Nehemiah with, with the wall, and that was one that rebuilding the city and kind of talked about America. So I just thought first that's a sidebar, that's super interesting but, whatever your political beliefs are.
Lisa Campbell:But I mean mean the bible always tells us what's happening, it is live, it's active, and this is the verse that I it's been restated in hebrews, um, and in hebrews it says it's talking about. For the word of god is living and active, full of power, making it operative, energizing and effective. It's sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating as far as the division of the soul and the spirit, the completeness of person and both joints the marrow, exposing and judging the very thoughts and intentions of the heart. So this truth journey, as a leader, starts with us. It starts with allowing that sword to show us what is truth, falsehood, what is flesh, what is spirit within us. But it also goes beyond that, and here's the reason why we want to stay tethered to the Lord, because, no matter what anybody else says or does, it goes on to say and not a creature exists that is concealed from his sight, but all things are open, exposed and revealed to the eyes of him, with whom we have to give account. So he knows everything, he is the spirit of truth. So, no matter what definition, even the definition of truth changes, he is the fidelity of the standard and he knows and he sees all within us, historically, throughout all of history, before he even spoke this world into to existence, and he knows the future and he knows the hearts and intents of people.
Lisa Campbell:Today. I want to read it, actually in another version too um, I think it's the passion translation. I have to look at it real quick and see. Um, and I don't know if there's anything else you want to say in between me. That's good. So it says, for we have the living word of God, which is full of energy, like a two-mouthed sword. It will even penetrate to the very core of our being, where soul and spirit, bone and marrow meet.
Lisa Campbell:Truth and falsehood is another version. It interprets and reveals the true thoughts and secret motives of our hearts. That's us. It's out there, everybody else, there's not one person who can hide their thoughts from God, for nothing that we do remains a secret and nothing created is concealed, but everything is exposed and defenseless before his eyes. To whom we must render an account and I think this also brings peace to us who, because I think, especially if you're a feeler and you feel the deception in the environment or you are highly discerning, like you are discerning of spirits, some of this stuff can drive you absolutely bonkers when you're just not when you're seeing maltruth.
Lisa Campbell:But I think this also addresses that idea that you don't have to come out with judgment against everybody. It's not that we don't have to come out with judgment against everybody, it's not that we're not going to speak the truth from the fidelity of the standard, the Bible, and being tethered to that truth, the spirit of truth, emmanuel, god with us, our gift from Jesus when he left. So it's not just that it does that, but it also gives you don't have to walk in judgment that it does that, but it also gives you you don't have to walk in judgment, you don't have to be that. You may have to say things, but you don't have to, like you know, have this defensiveness and judgment rise up within you. You can rest assured that Jesus is going to have the last word and he knows, he knows, he sees and he knows.
Lisa Campbell:And you don't have to be, I don't have to be afraid that I'm not going to have the last word and he knows, he knows, he sees and he knows. And you don't have to be, I don't have to be afraid that I'm not going to know the truth in a situation that I'm not going to remember something about even I mean practically about history, or about, you know, voting, or about um doctrine, or about if I did follow a leader and he was wrong. I don't have to worry about that and I don't even have to worry Like I'm not going to be afraid that I'm going to somehow go off track because I'm staying tethered to him and that's going to trickle down and affect everything I do as a leader. I'll pause there because I've been talking for a long time.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:No, you're good If you want to keep going.
Lisa Campbell:No, I saw you writing notes. Is there anything that you want to say? No, I have a question for later. Okay, yeah, so Okay.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:What are you doing?
Lisa Campbell:Taking a B-roll. It happened right now, so I'm being real, I'm taking a B-roll, oh my goodness. I know that's terrible, that's crazy, anyway, okay, okay. So the next Okay, go ahead Did you have something on that, um, I think the bottom line is okay.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Yes, for sure, I didn't write it down, but this is why it's important to know the voice of the holy spirit and the voice of the voice of god, and to know when it's your feelings. It's because the god, the holy spirit, knows everything, um, and he's the spirit of wisdom as well, and he's going to give you wisdom, knowledge yes he's going to let you discern what is what is truth and what is not truth.
Lisa Campbell:But it's really hard to tell when your feelings are oh my goodness, when there's so much information coming at you, right?
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:yeah, the flesh is deceptive, absolutely. And so when we're Constantly at this battle between oh, which frequency are we tuned into? Are we tuned into our feelings right now, or are we tuned into the Holy Spirit, because sometimes they sound pretty similar, right? Like the Holy Spirit. When you're a feeler, guess what the Holy Spirit's talking to you through your feelings. And if you're a discerner, he's talking through your discernment.
Lisa Campbell:Right.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:And that's the gift he's giving you and you have to really try hard to not think or feel, do or discern through your feelings, Like your physical and your emotions are human side of things.
Lisa Campbell:Yeah.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:You need to go through the Holy Spirit.
Lisa Campbell:And it's hard.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:And so that's why learning how to know I mean, it's just training ourselves to know which voice is the Holy Spirit and which voice is not the Holy Spirit. That's good, Because we're going to obviously be portraying something that may not be truth.
Lisa Campbell:Right.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Because if we're not listening to the spirit of truth, then we could be wrong.
Lisa Campbell:It's just better to let the spirit of truth, right, and that's what's going to flow out of us. That's what's going to flow out of us when we're ministering to our team and to the Lord and to the people that are there, which, I think, leads me right to one of the verses that I had in mind for today was James 1, 6 through 8. I'm going to start it in the Passion Translation, then move over to the Amplified. Just make sure you ask, empowered by confident faith, without doubting that you will receive, for the ambivalent person believes one minute and doubts the next. Being undecided makes you become like the rough seas, driven and tossed by the wind. You're up one minute and tossed down the next, when you are half-hearted and wavering. It leaves you unstable. Can you really expect to receive anything from the Lord when you're in that condition? Another word is unstable, but also restless, disengaged, and if we read that in the Amplified Version, I love how it says in verse 8, which I was reading through, verse 8, being a double-minded man. This is what you'll be. If you are not, if you're doubting, you're tossed to and fro in the sea, being a double-minded man, unstable, restless in all his ways, in everything he thinks, feels or decides, and I just think that's what is so prevalent right now is this double-mindedness. It creates this I'm tossed here and I'm tossed there and I'm restless and I don't know what to believe. And we don't want to release that. We want to be the centering peace kingdom, righteousness, peace and joy, solid, solid foundation, and the only way for us to do that is, like I said, to be tethereded. We don't want to follow what's happening in the world, where anything goes what's up, what's down, what's truth, what's not. We want to be a single-minded, focused on the Lord and I, and the way to do that is by abiding.
Lisa Campbell:And so that's the the next verse that I have, but I don't know if you wanted to say anything about that which is from John 15. I'm going to find it real quick here, hopefully. Anyway, I mean, you know this verse. It's I am the vine and my father is the vine dresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit, he takes away, and it talks about which that causes us to produce more fruit. You know, when we stay, we're clean because the word which he gave us, but we have to remain in him, which then he remains in us, and just as no branch can bear fruit. So we're not going to be bearing good fruit if we're not staying in him, we're not going to be reproducing that kingdom fruit. So we're not going to be bearing good fruit. If we're not staying in him, we're not going to be, we're not going to be reproducing that kingdom fruit.
Lisa Campbell:We're going to be reproducing double-mindedness, insecurity, restlessness, instead of if we abide in him, then we're going to release his fruit, and the one who abides in him releases a lot of fruit. And apart from him, do nothing. And if we don't, it goes on to say in verse six if anyone does not remain in me, he's thrown out like a broken off branch, withers and dies, and that then you're thrown into the fire and burned. So just talks about remaining in him, abiding in him, remaining in his love. And he said he told us these things that his joy and delight may be in us and that our joy may be full and complete and overflowing. And so, and then I'm just going to follow up with one more verse. This is a lot of verses. I hope it's okay, but this may seem Josiah's going to take care of. Oh, I thought you were going to. You may be hearing some little tippeter patters in the background, maybe not, I don't know. But if you do, that's just our puppies that are not happy with being held up.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:So these chairs are unreliable.
Lisa Campbell:No, they're just Adirondack chairs, anyway. So Jesus and this is one of my favorite, favorite, favorite favorite passages of all time it's when Jesus the high priest, it's one of his last prayers for us, and if you look through John 17, he talks about praying for us to be one with the Father, as he was one, and it talks about the words which the Father gave him. He's given us and we've received them, we've accepted them, and he was praying for us that he said I pray for them. I do not pray for the world, but for those you've given me, because they belong to you and all things that are mine are yours and he's. He's saying that he's no longer going to be in the, in the world, but he is going to be coming to us and he's just praying that all that he was given will come to us and that that, um, that God would, that the Father would guard us, protect us, and that one of us would be lost. And so this is his desire.
Lisa Campbell:And that was in the Amplified, I know, in the Passion Translation. It's really a beautiful I mean there's so many beautiful ways that he talks about it, but he said so with deep love. I pray for my disciples. I'm not asking on the behalf of the unbelieving world, but for those who belong to you, those you have given me, all those who belong to you, belong to me. They've surrendered their lives I'm kind of paraphrasing a little bit and he's talking about leaving the world. He said each one that you've given me, keep them in your name, keep them united, as we are one. And so he is.
Lisa Campbell:He also goes on to say in verse 17, your word is truth, so make them holy by truth. I've commissioned them to represent me, just as you commissioned me to represent you. And so he talks about his truth in there too, about how his truth is what keeps people. You know that's what keeps people. It shows them that Jesus is the way. So we've got to stay, because right now more than ever, people are needing a Savior, they're needing a rescuer, they're needing truth. Yeah.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Just kind of like to move on a little bit. I'm just curious, I'm like I'm gonna fall off.
Lisa Campbell:I just did this be very still, be very still, and I promise I won't laugh lies um.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:I was gonna ask why is this important?
Lisa Campbell:in worship.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:I'm like, why is this actually important? I bought the cheapest church in the whole lot and I'm feeling it Okay.
Lisa Campbell:So the reason why this is important for worship is kind of some of the things that I just said, which were one, I think people are looking, People are confused, Even if they don't know they're confused. They're confused and we have the truth. Two, if we're not tethered to the truth, we're going to reproduce that double mindedness. So this is, this is also why it's important. Three, people need Jesus and they're going to know the truth when we're tethered to the truth. And four, it helps us to not be all the things that we're saying. It helps us to not be double-minded, restless. It helps us to not be the ones that die and you know, as we're abiding in the truth that are thrown into the fire. You know. It helps us not what rise up in judgment or feel powerless, because we know that God sees all, knows all, and we don't have to worry if we're believing right, if we're going to be led astray, we're tethered to the truth.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Yeah, I think this is important in the sense of worship leaders. It's important because I think about leadership as like an intake, and if we're not ourselves centered on the truth and we don't know what the truth is ourself like, we don't know what the truth is ourself like. We don't know what a woman is, or like on the basic level, that's really basic, but like are. Is everybody supposed to speak in tongues? That's the one that I wish I've had. I don't. I haven't found an answer yet, like a clear and cut answer, um, except I know what the word says and it says some will be gift given the gifts of speaking in tongues. So that tells me, oh, some might not, some it's a gift. So some are given the gift, some are not. And so if I don't know simple questions like is Jesus king, then I'm not. My congregation, whoever I'm leading, is not going to know the truth either, because most of the time people are getting their revelation secondhand or thirdhand.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:So we were given this. This is our first hands, so this is us leading us reading it, and when God gives us revelation, it's now first-hand revelation, but when we give it to somebody else, it's second-hand revelation. And so when we're reading from the Gospels like Matthew, mark, luke and John, that's their account. So we're given a third account and then we're trying to consume that and give it to somebody else, and if we're not founded in what the rest of this Bible says and how to actually give somebody the truth, we're just going to be giving something, something, but we don't know what it is.
Lisa Campbell:We're going to be giving them flesh instead of spirit, and it's important as a leader that we're giving somebody something that's actually going to lead them to the Lord, rather than lead them to ourself.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:That's what's happening, especially in culture like music, culture, I think, like christian contemporary lots of different bands just going into the flesh, just because we're not. We're no longer singing about these things. That's in here. We're not singing about jesus, where they might be, but they've just kind of gotten off their base and now they're in the flesh.
Lisa Campbell:Yeah, so I mean, I'm just, I'm just gonna say thank you, lord, that you keep us tethered and yoked to you. Your yoke is easy, your burden is light. We want to thank you that, in a world where there's so much confusion, so much chaos, so much what is truth, so much anarchy, so much tyranny, so much my truth, lord? We know that there is not. There's only one truth, and the one who is truth is you, and you are the source and we have direct access to you because you tore the veil so that we could have direct access. So, lord, just, would you keep us abiding in you?
Lisa Campbell:We agree with the prayer that Jesus prayed thousands of years ago. Would you make us one as you were one? Would you keep us one with the truth? And we embrace the spirit of truth, the Emmanuel, who is God with us? Would you help us to produce your fruit? Would you keep us from being double-minded and unstable in all of our ways and restless and insecure? Would you, lord, would you keep us? We say we willingly open our hearts to allow your sword, your double-edged sword, to pierce our hearts, to show us what is flesh, what is spirit, what is truth, what is falsehood, and we trust you and that oneness with you, and we trust that sword of yours and your word to keep us exactly where we need to be, to consistently keep us on the path of truth, tethered to your truth, and keep us releasing your truth around us. Amen, in Jesus name. Well, thanks, guys for tuning in.
Josiah Campbell Sanchez:Uh, if you have anything you'd like us to talk about, feel free to reach us. Reach out to us in comments or email us at open water.
Lisa Campbell:Open water worship because everything else is open waters. Worship, that's why, and so that's it. We love you. Please share, subscribe and all that kind of fun stuff. We love you so much. We pray that god blesses you. Yeah, take care. Bye.
