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44: Knowing What We Do ~ The Seven Hebrew Words For Praise Pt. 2

Josiah Sanchez, Lisa Campbell Season 1 Episode 44

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Have you ever felt the Holy Spirit direct your praise and His direction compel your hands skyward? Prepare to be stirred as we explore the transformative power of worship in its most dynamic forms. We say farewell to our familiar "More About Us" segment, but the connection deepens here in the Open Waters podcast. Join us at New Creation Church or dive into the discussion online as we navigate the profound Hebrew concepts of 'Yadah' and 'Todah'—praise that embodies surrender and the anticipation of blessings not yet seen. 

This episode is a heartfelt invitation to experience worship that transcends the private sphere and steps boldly into the public domain. From the childlike abandon championed by King David to the victorious battle cries of Jehoshaphat's army, we trace the threads of uninhibited praise and its role in spiritual warfare. Discover how your own expressions of faith can be both a personal fortress and a communal beacon, shining brightly as we gather in His name, even in the most isolated of times.

We close with a fervent call to action: let us not confine our worship to the shadows but bring it forth into the light of day, reclaiming joy and planting the flag of God's presence in every place we tread. As we share stories, scripture, and a prayer for boldness, you're invited to join us in transforming the ordinary into a living testament of faith. After all, isn't the world in need of a bit more heaven on earth?

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Speaker 1:

and went out into the wilderness of Tekoa and as they went out, jehoshaphat stood and said Hear me, o Judah, and you, inhabitants of Jerusalem, believe and trust in the Lord, your God, and be established and secure, believe and trust in his prophets and succeed. When he had consulted with the people, he appointed those who sang to the Lord and those who praised him in their holy priestly attire as they went out before the army and said praise and give thanks the Lord for his mercy and loving kindness endures forever wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

Now we can head it howdy. Take two, all righty, what's up y'all?

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So people on video. She's trying to be the like. I don't know what to call it.

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Movie producer.

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Utah County, right next to my place, yep.

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Because we feel like you know enough about us.

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And if you want to know more, hit us up in the comments, because we can totally talk to you there 100. Or you can visit us on any Sunday at New Creation Church. That is our home church currently and for the foreseeable future. So obviously we're not planning on moving. We're not planning on moving, so we're not church hoppers or nothing like that.

Speaker 2:

So all right. But so today is the episode on the second part to the seven Hebrew words of praise series that we've been doing. I don't want to call it a series because I'm not a pastor and I don't like. I don't like that phrase, like it is a series.

Speaker 1:

We're into a series on this. Series refers to a lot of different, because I'm not a pastor and I don't like that phrase. It is a series, though we're going to do a series on this. A series refers to a lot of different things. It's just when you choose.

Speaker 2:

You don't get like it's not like a buzzkill when you hear, oh, we're going to do a series on this.

Speaker 1:

No, not for me.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Maybe for you. Maybe you're like, oh my gosh, how long is this? So we're going to just jump straight into it. I know, it's weird.

Speaker 2:

That's why we try to give you guys a little bit of a softer start with the conversation, but we're just going to hop right into it and so both these words are great words obviously. That's why they're in this list. But they both have to deal with physical actions and outward expressions of praise, which is pretty cool because it shows kind of the importance of outward praise and public praise. A lot of people like to sit down and be like I'm going to just sing a song inside and I'm just going to not show people outwardly me praising the Lord. We're just going to, you know, not show people outwardly you and me praising the Lord. We're just going to sit here and just praise Jesus.

Speaker 1:

Which there is a place for that Totally, but there's also a place for the things that we're going to talk about today and just a sidebar. If you want to know what the first one was that we talked about, go listen to our last podcast right before and vlog.

Speaker 2:

It was called Right before this Barak Barak vlog. It was right before this and I believe this is the I forgot to say the 50, oh 45th episode of of the open waters podcast. So welcome again. Um, but like I was gonna say, I just want to talk briefly about the importance of outward expression yeah, actually those times when you do need to have that outward expression. What do you think?

Speaker 1:

Well.

Speaker 2:

I think it's super important.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, I think what I like about this one is because this one is. I mean I just first of all, I think sometimes there are times when you just can't hold it in and you gotta get it out.

Speaker 1:

It's like energy that's gotta come out. And then I think there are some times when you're like, no, I'm going to do this. You know, immediately when you said the outward expression, somebody had come up to me recently and was talking about some of the worship that I was doing and I actually had two people tell me prophetic words and actually when they gave me these words I was like afterwards especially when I got the second one I'm like man. I must really look a fool lately when I'm worshiping, because one person told me that you know your childlike worship. It may look not foolish, but people may not understand it.

Speaker 1:

But it means so much to God and don't let anybody. And I was like, okay, understand it. But it means so much to God and don't let anybody. And I was like okay. And then I had somebody else, um kind of give me a word over how we were doing some worship at the state Capitol and how there were people um there that were just watching part of our team that were watching behind us.

Speaker 1:

That I didn't even see that were kind of you can tell like they were like what are they doing? And so she spoke a word over me that was like you're like David and people like Michael may criticize your worship, but you're a worship priest. So I'm going to actually look into that more, what that means. And so it's like, okay, like I said, I've been thinking, oh wow, what do I look like when I'm worshiping?

Speaker 2:

But you know, what that's been.

Speaker 1:

my whole thing is to be like David and like Mary Mary breaking her perfume before the Lord's feet, not caring what other people think. And David who became even more indignified than this he had that outward expression yeah yeah, and just won winning battles, and he couldn't hold back his praise. He had to get it out as expressed in his body.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, both of these words don't necessarily deal with dancing yet that is one of the words in the future, but it does have to do with outward praise with the hands and extending your hands.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So what exactly does it mean, Josiah? What does yada mean?

Speaker 2:

Yada means essentially the outward, pretty much praising God for what he's going to do, and it's before anything has happened. Yet you're going to like lift your hand in praise and thanks not thanksgiving, that is the next word, but lifting your hand in pretty much thanking.

Speaker 1:

It says to confess. Oh, I'm on the wrong word. Whoops, yes.

Speaker 2:

I'm on the wrong one.

Speaker 1:

I skipped one, that's todah, it's yadah Yadah, it's yadah Yadah.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead, you were going to explain it it means to confess.

Speaker 1:

It's like you're making a confession with your hands. It's like, with your outstretched hands, you're confessing, whatever that confession is and it also says to revere or worship with raised hands, so essentially anybody who says that that's not okay, or we're not supposed to do that, or we have to bow reverently or whatever.

Speaker 2:

It is no, this is a form of expression talked about in the bible and if it's okay, josiah, I'd love to read sure, one of the verses I want to say really quick before you do that, is that, uh, apologies for the up, but also it's saying to confess your sins to the Lord. It doesn't mean you have to do it to other people, but the Bible also talks about confess to one another, yeah, and be healed, yes, but we're also like this is saying that we're supposed to confess our sins to the obvious one, the Lord.

Speaker 1:

Well and just confessions of what the Lord like using with your mouth, using with your body and your mouth, confession of who he is and what he's gonna do.

Speaker 2:

Exaltations on parts, attributes, his attributes and like go for it. What are you gonna read?

Speaker 1:

So I just love this, because one of the verses that Vivian used as as an example of this, as describing it in the Bible, was 2 Chronicles 20. And this is the time again when Jehoshaphat is going before the Lord and he is going before the people of Judah, and the Lord says to him as he's going before the Lord, do not be afraid or dismayed at this great multitude, for the battle is not yours, but it is God's. Go down against them tomorrow. Behold, they will come up by the ascent of Ziz and you will find them at the end of the river valley, in front of the wilderness of Jeriel. You will not need to fight in this battle. Take your position, stand and witness the salvation of the Lord, who is with you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, judah and Jerusalem, do not fear or be dismayed Tomorrow. Go out against them, for the Lord is with you. So he bowed his face, he prayed into that and he, with other people, praised the Lord in a very loud voice. So, then, this is where the actual verse for Yadah comes into play, and it's almost like he's confessing what the Lord just said Just stand there and watch and see the deliverance of the Lord.

Speaker 1:

You're like confessing, almost like I'm not going to be afraid, I'm just going to worship my God. And so they got up early in the morning verse 20, and went out into the wilderness of Tekoa. And as they went out, jehoshaphat stood and said hear me, o Judah, and you, inhabitants of Jerusalem, believe and trust in the Lord, your God, and be established and secure, believe and trust in his prophets and succeed. When he had consulted with the people, he appointed, those who sang to the Lord and those who praised him in their holy priestly attire as they went out before the army and said praise and give thanks to the Lord for his mercy and loving kindness endures forever. So they were praising the Lord by declaring and confessing that the Lord is good and his mercy endures forever, his loving kindness. And that's how they won the battle. That's all they had to do. They didn't have to actually fight.

Speaker 1:

So there's several more verses If you want to look them up for reference. I'm not going to read them all, but I'm going to list them for you so you can look them up. That uses actually Yada in them Psalm 9-1, psalm 28-7, psalm 43-4, 1-11-1, which I think is cool because the numbers God always uses the ones for us 1-38-1, and then Psalm 1-34-2. And one of those actually says lift up your hands in the sanctuary and bless the Lord.

Speaker 1:

So, there you go what up?

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

I was skipping ahead is todah, and that is to give the Lord praise for what he's going to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a faith move.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's pretty much like praising the Lord for someone's, like you're going to praise the Lord for someone's healing before it happens right, it happens a lot in ministry like that, or breakthrough, or there's a couple other things but it's. I think we should be using it more in like a sense of like worship. We're going to praise God for he has showed up already. He's going to show up, he's going to transform us.

Speaker 2:

You know, what I'm saying and it's this is one that I think we use, but we don't know, we didn't know the word for it, you know, and like I said last episode, like we kind of had this idea of oh, we do this because it's biblical BS, but like what's the actual definition of it?

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

What's the definition of what we're doing? And so this one also is a derivative from the word yada, and so todah it was derived from yada, so it also has to deal with hands, and so without certain hands just giving praise, so both of these having to deal with the hands, pretty cool stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's super cool, which I think in the last word it talked about that yada may be actually a derivative of Judah which is kind of cool, pretty cool. By the way, sidebar, I almost named you Judah. You were either going to be Jude or well. There were three names we considered for you, but one of them was Judah.

Speaker 2:

Glad you didn't.

Speaker 1:

Judah. That was the praise I know I like you?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm just kidding. I like my praise. I know I like you.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just kidding, I like my name, I like Josiah Fitzhugh. So there's actually a scripture verse for this. This is I was just talking about Abraham, it was just Israel, just an exhortation of Israel by the prophet Isaiah. And he was talking to those who are wanting to have right standing with God, to seek and inquire of the Lord and to look to the example of Abraham and Sarah and for the heritage they had from the past. And talking about the future. Then he turns to the future and said the Lord will comfort Zion in her captivity, he will comfort all her ruins and he will make her wilderness like Eden. So he was reminding them of what God did. And then he's giving them hope for the future, and one of the things he says is joy and gladness will be found in her thanksgiving and the voice of a melody.

Speaker 2:

So it's that word thanksgiving, the thanking him for what is to come um in confession of faith, uh for the future.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of a lot of the times promises were made to people. Throughout the Bible, they praise the Lord after, after the promise was made, not after the obviously praise God after the promise was fulfilled. But a lot of people throughout the Bible uh, gave praise to the Lord when the promise was given to them, like Abraham, like he was told that he was going to be a father of many generations, praise the Lord after he had been given that promise. But obviously you guys probably know the story, but he just, you know, tried to make it happen himself, but he praised the Lord. I'm going to focus on that part. Beforehand, the promise was made, he praised the Lord for the promise. And that's this word, right Todah, where he's praising the Lord for something that has not happened yet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's so amazing, it's just cool stuff, man.

Speaker 2:

I enjoy these words and just getting to know the definitions of these words, because I think it puts a word for what we're doing.

Speaker 1:

There's a cool song I believe you might have mentioned it last time by Carmen I did a cool song I believe you might have mentioned it last time by Carmen I did, and we listened to it after because we hadn't heard it because it's old school. It's a pretty good song actually Like when I was a teen.

Speaker 2:

It's a pretty fun song, but it's called the seven Hebrew words of praise by Carmen yeah. I believe it's just that simple and so I can, yeah, so go ahead and listen to that on.

Speaker 1:

Spotify. It's super fun, it is.

Speaker 2:

It's a good one. It'll get you moving and yeah, do you have any last minute additions?

Speaker 1:

I think I want to read that Psalm 111 one. So I'm going to go back to that.

Speaker 2:

That was the Yada, so I'm going to look at Yada. Which is the confession.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I'm going to find it. So it'll take me just a second Hold on here. Just a second hold on here. Praise the Lord, hallelujah. I will give thanks to the Lord with all of my heart, in the company of the upright and in the congregation. And there was something that I really liked about that is that it says give thanks. Yeah, the give thanks. So that's, total oh yeah, well, it could be either.

Speaker 2:

Or a combination of both.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it just mostly both of these involve the expression of the hands uplifted. But something that I thought really struck out to me with that verse was in the company of the upright and in the congregation, because I remember when we were going through COVID it was, and we went through a season after that of really kind of doing home church was, which was great, but what I longed for was for us to do the company and the upright worship with more than just online and more than just you know.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to do that worship together corporate worship. I missed that, and so I think that's kind of cool, because while there's while there's a place to do it in your secret place, there is a growing trend. I mean, I think I just saw a report recently it might've been Mark Driscoll that said it that church attendance is down, it's really it's lower. We have salvations and we have things like that happening, which is incredible but church attendance itself is down and do you know why that is.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it's because after COVID, a lot of people because obviously we know that was there was an attack of the enemy in that. You know, I don't want to give glory. But the truth is that was a deliberate attempt in the natural and in the supernatural, to to tear people apart and to disarm the body of christ, yeah and to do with human connection, and so because there's so much power in connecting um together and so um, and I just think a lot of people thought well, this is fine, I can just watch online.

Speaker 1:

Which is great that we now, like a lot of churches that weren't online started being able to be online, or a lot of churches that weren't online started being able to be online, or a lot of churches that had online capacity upped their quality of online presence quality and quantity. So there was a beautiful thing that came out of it.

Speaker 1:

but there's a difference, and I know we've talked about this before, but I think here is just another example of why it is important to not only express these praises and not only to gather together, but to do this expression of worship together with the other, upright and in a company of believers A hundred percent.

Speaker 2:

And so I mean we're going to continue chugging along with these words. But also I think it's important to realize that you know there's just some things that I mean are supposed to be done in the corporate body as well. You know that we're called to. It's in Acts, where two or more are gathered, I believe it's in Acts. That's where it is. But where two or more are gathered, they're in the midst of you and it's just. It's important to have the corporate gatherings and to not just worship on your own in your closet. That's important. But it also is important to worship, and these outward expressions can't be done outward if you're not in public. And so and most of the time you're not I know people aren't going to be in like their coffee shop raising their hand saying praise the Lord right.

Speaker 2:

And so it's like if you're not doing it as an outward expression, then what are you doing?

Speaker 1:

There's just something to that. I mean, it's not like there's a, like we've said, there's a time for everything.

Speaker 2:

Totally.

Speaker 1:

So I think this is just. We can't discount the importance of this because it's in there for a reason. I'm also looking at. You can keep talking about things, but I'm also looking at. There was another observation I made, but I don't remember which verse it was. I'm trying to look it up real quick. Is there anything else that you're wanting to point out about?

Speaker 2:

No, not really. I mean the outward expression was my. My main thing is I just want to talk about the importance of that. I wanted to talk about was the outward expression of praise just being important, cause, yes, god's a spiritual God, but he's also he's not just you know, he became flesh, you know, became physical. And also I think, where when we do something physical, it calls our spiritual. I mean, when we do something spiritual, we need to also draw our physical, because our physical body hates doing what the spirit, what is of the spirit and what's good for the spirit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so when we draw our physical body to do something that's good for the spirit, it just aligns our body with our spirit and we just kind of get to worship on another level.

Speaker 1:

I like this one too, psalm 107, 22,. In reference to the todah which is the thanksgiving. It says, and let them offer the sacrifices of thanksgiving, which is that todah, and speak his deeds with shouts of joy. So there's a shout in there too. That comes that.

Speaker 2:

I think, also.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes we can't help it and we shout. And sometimes we shout because it is.

Speaker 2:

You're jumping the gun here, man.

Speaker 1:

I know, but sometimes that shout accompanies that thankfulness and faith, because we true, we have to think and that's where the combination we engage our body, mind and spirit and all parts of that, because we're trying beings.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I'm not we're getting the combination of multiple which, if you didn't know, there's a word called shabak, which I believe means just the shout to shout and um, and it's a shout of triumph, and I believe is what it is, and so that's cool you're jumping the gun a little bit. I am, you know I get excited brother cuz, whatever I am all the above, are you looking up another one?

Speaker 1:

I was because there was something else.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, here is the other thing is go for it again online with the whole um, with the in front of the congregation it talks about. I will give thanks with all of my heart. I will sing praises to you before the pagan gods. I will bow down and worship towards your holy temple and give thanks to your name for your loving, kindness and your truth. So I just think that is another example of a place that we give praise to God, and when you do this outward expression, it's not just in our closet, it's not just in our holy temple or in our churches and our congregation with other believers. We do it as a confession even in those territories that we know are currently not under the authority of the Lord.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think if you're in the enemy's territory, he doesn't want you to confess of something that might have a stronghold over that territory.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Like I'm thinking of Sean Foy just did. I think it was in, it was actually he's been in all over the place. I thought it was in Texas, it might've been in New York, I don't know, and they were just. They were marching through, raising their hands and declaring joy and taking that land, you know, before the and basically the pagan gods, and just saying there's going to be joy here. This land is the Lord's and I think I would equate that with a, with a todah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's awesome, anyway, and a yada confessing who the Lord is and thanksgiving for what he's going to do. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, god, I just pray for boldness. God, within the people watching, listening, god, that we just have boldness to give out their outward expressions of praise. God to you, god.

Speaker 2:

You're so worthy of praise, you're so worthy of the fullness of each of these different versions of praise or different expressions of praise, god, and I pray that we wouldn't just do it in our closets, we wouldn't just do it in our cars, but we'd also do it in public, god, in our churches. God, not just sit down and just be a spectator, but be a worshiper, an active, just an active worshiper for you, god. And so we just pray for boldness.

Speaker 1:

In the name of Jesus. Amen.

Speaker 2:

Take care guys.

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