Open Waters Podcast
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Open Waters Podcast
41: The Heart of Worship: Embracing Intentionality
Have you ever wondered if your habits at church are just that, habits? Or do they stem from a deeper, more intentional place within your soul? As we rekindle memories of our electrifying discussion with Manuel Rodriguez and Lester Herrera in our latest episode, we promise an exploration of why the heart behind our worship matters more than the routine itself. Manuel, with his workshop prowess, and Lester, with sound engineering wisdom, join us to shed light on the nuances of personal tech use and how it ties into our daily expression of faith.
The journey of worship can be likened to a trek through the desert, focusing on the presence of God rather than the final destination. This episode takes you into the heart of what it means to truly worship, encouraging a lifestyle that seeks God's guidance in every decision, big or small. We invite you to ponder the essence of your church attendance and worship practices, asking if they are performed out of genuine desire or mere obligation. Together, we delve into the importance of keeping our eyes on God through all of life's travels, reinforcing that worship is not about the accolades we receive but the glory we give.
As we wrap up, the conversation turns introspective, challenging us to live a life of worship that is intentional, regardless of whether we're in the spotlight or serving quietly behind the scenes. We discuss how a steadfast focus on Jesus shapes our actions and time management, attracting fellow believers who share a passion for purposeful faith. Your engagement is vital to us, and we eagerly await your feedback through social media as we continue to navigate our faith journeys collectively. Join us, be inspired, and perhaps discover how to transform your worship into an intentional act that honors the very heart of God.
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Hello, welcome to the 41st episode of the Open Waters Podcast 4-1.
Speaker 2:Excellent Welcome back Cool, welcome back how you doing. Good.
Speaker 1:Missed you in the last one. We had a fantastic episode, oh my gosh, it was fire.
Speaker 2:If you haven't listened to it, I highly recommend you go and listen, because it was incredible. She's trying I walked away with some major yeah, major, hit you on the top of your head moments if you didn't catch it, though, we did have two special guests manuel rodriguez uh the worshiping musician uh workshops and summits, but he's a part of the worshiping musician school um here in utah.
Speaker 1:he does a bunch of different events and he's got one coming up on April 6th, I believe is the next workshop for the Worshiping Musician School and we also have Lester Herrera.
Speaker 2:Herrera.
Speaker 1:It's Herrera A-R-R-A.
Speaker 2:It's H-E.
Speaker 1:No, it's not.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Have I been spelling it wrong?
Speaker 2:I think so.
Speaker 1:That's fine. I got to go change that Anyway. Now that I know, I will go change that Anyway. So yeah, he is a talented sound engineer that does sound for New Creation Church. He's awesome. His learning curve has been he's just learned stuff at an exponential rate. I truly believe it's a divine learning.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that he's been given 100%. It's been amazing yeah.
Speaker 1:He's an awesome guy to be also, so just to put that out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that was fire. I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1:It was a great episode, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2:So Give us the Moabatis section section real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the more Mo about us.
Speaker 2:So my question to you is Josiah and you probably have more opinions about this, because you're a software dude. Sure brother Brother.
Speaker 1:So are you a Mac person or a Windows person? Mac or Windows? I'm a Windows guy. I use Samsung phones. I'm a Windows computer guy.
Speaker 2:I can't get on the Apple train. It's just the Apple train.
Speaker 1:I just don't like it. I mean, I'm not going to lie when it comes to the privacy and stuff. Companies are companies. They're going to take your information wherever they can. So it's not like one's just better than the other morally, but I just like windows and samsung more yeah, I think I have people.
Speaker 2:I feel like people who are mac people love their macs yeah so they're like. They're the better one, but I have never used a mac, except for, like, if I have a friend or somebody who lets me use one, and so I really don't have good knowledge if you have a friend or somebody who lets me use one, and so I really don't have good knowledge about it.
Speaker 1:If you have an Apple phone, you'll enjoy your Mac because they're very oh compatible, Very worked together Okay. You get one, you can pretty much do things on one with the other device because they're connected. They work together very well. They're very synergistic, synergistic.
Speaker 2:Yay, so, okay, so I'm a windows person just because of user friendliness and what I've always done, um, but okay, I want to make sure, before we move any further, that we talk about our next open water. So, as everybody should know, by now, we've moved to a first sunday of the month. Open waters, uh, in person, get together and we're going to start doing outreaches at different areas. We'll have more information on that to come, but this next one that we're doing on the 7th of april, we are actually usually we have it at our house, but we're going to actually have this one up north, where you did actually a live um recording did it live, but it was was kind of short because of the January in January, because of the internet?
Speaker 1:yes, but yes, it was in January. We had the last one it was live and this one coming up. In April we will have in the Camas church that we're going to be a part of for that week.
Speaker 2:Do you know what the name of the church is? By chance?
Speaker 1:I don't off the top of my head. I don't off the top of my head. I don't. I don't think they actually have like a name for the church, Cause it's like a. I don't have the address right now, yet I do have the address so I can put it in the description.
Speaker 2:Okay, we'll put it in the description, so look for that. If you're interested in coming out, we would love to have you also.
Speaker 1:We're going to try to work, just some fun facts for you as we move.
Speaker 2:Get ready to go into our topic and dive in today.
Speaker 1:And if you would like to watch us online, we'll have a live stream up and running and should be ready to go. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, and if you've been curious about what we look like, you've heard our voices for a while. We are on YouTube, open Waters Worship, if you have anything that you want to comment. If you have anything that you want to comment, you can email us at openwaterworship at gmailcom, and we're on Instagram under Open Waters Worship, so we'd love to interact with you. Yes, okay, josiah, what's our topic for today? What is our topic?
Speaker 1:What is it? It's intentionality in worship. Okay, intentionality in worship. Intentionality in worship. All right, I'm trying to delete it off.
Speaker 1:I Intentionality and worship Intentionality and worship All right, and kind of to lead it off, I just want to give like a precursor to everything else that's going to be said and that's just our life is worship. We're supposed to live our lives in a way that represents who God is and glorify God with our lives. And worship isn't just like, it's not for our glory, it's not to make us look righteous or anything like that. It's literally just to exalt and glorify Jesus. And so when it becomes about us, we had we should pause and ask ourselves if we're really worshiping, because we're most likely coming from a different place, but we I personally want to get to a place where I'm worshiping out of a place of just wanting to exalt God with my life.
Speaker 2:So yeah, anyway, I think, um, the reason why I was wanting to dive into this topic too is because I was listening actually to your pot your the last podcast I did with Manuel and and Les and I was just really again stirred to something that I've really already been pushing into.
Speaker 2:we've had a few podcasts about this, but just the intimacy with God and really about the quiet time and the secret place being the main focus, not like it's a job, but just making such with intentionality, making that time as important, just as important as, say, going to a job or something where you're required to be there, and it's not because we are required to be there, it's because we want to be there. And it's not because we are required to be there, it's because we want to be there, but still, you know it's that, it's that that idea of and treating it with that much importance, and it's because when you love somebody, you go the extra mile and you make it the priority. Um, so, just like I was talking to you before, I have a lot of my hands are in a lot of different pots, but in my heart, the level of priority of this time with you as my son, and what we're doing together, is one of the very top priorities. My family, all that is, takes precedence over any other thing.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing in a different way with the lord and so I was even thinking, just like we, because you guys had said something about two. There's so many things that you said in there about not worshiping for the emotions but worshiping to exalt him. Just a check for me to remember that it's about him and and then and we've had podcasts on that too but also just it's not about the song that you're singing. Was that what it was?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not about well, I think something that me or Manuel said, I mean even less. I think we all probably touched on it at some point. But it's not about the song that we sing. It's not if we're playing like the most famous song or if it's by like Bethel music or it's by Elevation Worship. It doesn't matter if it's like our favorite song on the playlist or it just is.
Speaker 2:It. Are we glorifying God with it or are we playing the song? To play the song? Yeah. So when, when you had said some of that, I just really was like you know, it really doesn't matter what songs we choose, it really doesn't matter what the program is at the church, it really doesn't matter what the outreach is. Or even I was telling you it doesn't matter, like if we were, let's say we were going to decide to go sing at an arena somewhere for which we want, we like to do the open waters in the park, we've done that, we want to do it again. Or if we just were like we're going to plan to sing on our outside deck. It's not about the actual end product. It's about that time that you spend with Jesus and that time you spend with God, the journey to getting. It's not the outcome, it's the journey with him to the outcome. I don't think he really it's something he doesn't care. I just think he cares less about that than he does about the actual process of you and him getting to that.
Speaker 1:Well, if you think about it, it's you know. If you think about God and the Israelites through the whole desert of like the 40 years. It wasn't even that it was supposed to be. Like I forget what it says like two weeks or like two to four weeks of journey.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Was it from Egypt to the promised land, and so they spent 40 years, but God was literally led them by a cloud, by a cloud by day and a fire by night, and it's just like he wanted to be there for the journey with them, and he did it in the most obvious way that they knew that God was with them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But instead of, you know, going on a journey with him, they decided to make it about themselves and to not be on the journey with him. They made it about the destination Right, which is about the promised land, and God killed off all the ones that made it about the promised land and not about him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just think about even.
Speaker 1:That was a dream.
Speaker 2:But yeah, this applies to worship, but it's not just to worship.
Speaker 2:I feel even you know, dan, your stepdad is working through a major transition in his career and I just have been kind of he's looking at a whole new avenue and he really feels like this is where the Lord wants him to go and that's good.
Speaker 2:And, of course, if the Lord is saying, do this, we want to obey and do this probably more about his journey with God in this time and in this season of his life than it is about what he does for a living, it matters, but I don't think it matters as much as the journey to get there with God and taking him by the hand and making this decision together. That matters more than because if he goes back to doing what he's always done, I think the Lord is fine with that and I think the Lord is excited to do a new endeavor with him. But I think the thing that's most important is that he connects with God through it all and that it's more about the intentionality in worshiping with his life and worshiping God, whether that's in what we would consider a traditional worship type environment or just in life and everything 100%.
Speaker 1:There's just an intentionality that needs to be there where you got to. We got to stop focusing on the goal more than we focus on who we're going to the goal with, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's almost a cliche now, but like in movies well, at least in movies that came out a while ago it would be about the people that we met along the way, the people that the friends that we made along the way have a deal, where it's like that was a treasure, you know, and it's kind of like the cliche was there because it was kind of true. You know, god wants to be the person, the treasure that we got right, but he was the one that we got to do it with and then get to this goal. The goal should not be greater than the, the God who created the goal.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying and so it's like yeah, so you were talking about um. One of the points was um I think we kind of already said time with God to figure out the goal.
Speaker 1:That's essentially we're saying is is the actual target well, yeah, but so that's more of a precursor before you even figure out, like for like people that have maybe you don't know where you're going in life yet. Like dan had to get a really serious like talk with himself and god and like where do you want me to go? You know right, and it's like, it's, it's not like oh, I get to go this way, I have got a goal already.
Speaker 1:It's like it's. It's not like, oh, I get to go this way, I have got a goal already. It's like no, I got to sit down with God and see what he would like and what I would like God does put. Take what we would like to do into account.
Speaker 2:Yeah, A hundred percent. And even if he, even if God said, if he's feeling like God was saying, do this, but Dan, not in direct disobedience so just hear me out on that but I don't feel like. I feel like it's more about him connecting with God and intentionality and laying his life down and worshiping the Lord than it is about what he actually does.
Speaker 2:Say it again I think this whole thing that, like you brought it up, is more about, I think, whether somebody, whether he's gonna go to work in the traditional job that he did, or if he he ends up, um, doing this new thing, I think it's just don't do it, apart from connecting and worshiping god and being intentional I think sometimes it can be that way, but I think a lot of the time, you know, when God tells you to do something, it's just you know and this is something that I think everybody passes up on, is we?
Speaker 1:a lot of the time, we do default to our feelings, and I think that's where the intentionality part comes in. If we're going to be intentional, we're going to do what the Lord wants us to do as well.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, you know what I'm saying Absolutely, absolutely. And I did give a disclaimer that there are times when there are things that are sinful, there are things that are direct disobedience, there are things that are done out of fear, but I think it's still more about our intentions to honor God and to worship Him. The intention.
Speaker 1:God sees the heart, he doesn't. He's not a respecter of people, so he sees the motive of everybody Right, and so yeah, a hundred percent. If he sees that your motive is, you know who you are.
Speaker 2:I'm not the judge, so I can't really tell what he's going to do but you know, and so there there is a next, but that was a precursor is setting the goal with God and making that time valuable. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1:It's an intentionality there, with the time, with God, you know, because.
Speaker 2:So okay. So let me clarify One what I was speaking to you was more of it's, more about the journey with Jesus than the outcome or the end. And then what you're saying is an intentionality, the planning. Is yes, you do have to have that goal of being with god.
Speaker 1:Um, that should be your goal, yeah as as humans, I think we tend to be more goal oriented and I think, like me myself included, I, I think, like you know what, whatever area of life maybe it's the area of character god's trying to grow me in which, right now, is discipline. It's just like I should just be disciplined already, you know, and it's almost like a self-righteousness, and that's that's another area I need to work on is, you know, being like all these areas to work on so many and I should just be at being at be at.
Speaker 1:You know the end goal already, yeah, but it's as humans. We see the end goal and we're just like, okay, that's what we go to, and then we're done. It's just like, no, we're here with God, the creator of all things. Why do we have our magnifying glass on the goal rather than on the person?
Speaker 2:who is?
Speaker 1:getting us to the goal with him. What up Open Waters family? I just wanted to take one quick second away from the podcast. I'm sorry to ask you if you could please go ahead, like, rate and subscribe to this podcast, because it does wonders for us reaching more people so that we can get the word of God out to people and what God is speaking to us. Open Waters is all about building up intimacy with God, building up the morale of Christianity in the body of Christ, as well as building fellowship. So if you have any friends, please send them our way so we can get to know them as well. Take care, I love you guys.
Speaker 1:Part of intentionality is, you know, I think a lot of the time when something's intentional, we're not going to get bored of it or we're not going to make it a task or something that it's like, oh, we have to do. You know I'm saying if it's intentional, it's something that we get to do. Um, you know, more or less I think people can put in the excuse no, I don't want to do work, but I have to do work, but I and I have to be intentional about it. You know I'm saying because if I don't work, I don't get paid and I don't. But it's just like you got to realize that not everybody gets the opportunity to make the money that you do. Everybody has the ability to go and earn money to make food. I put food on the table for your family yourself and so, but anyway, and it's just this we've kind of been touching on it for the last two episodes.
Speaker 1:It's just the boredom in church, and when we make time with god intentional, we make we're uh intentional worship. It's just like it's going to take that boredom out, because we're actually putting effort into worship, because we're going to be like okay, lord, how do I worship you to the best of my ability? And I think as humans we're problem solvers and we like to make things uh better or as best they can be. At least that's how God gave us, that's the ordained. But we were ordained to do that from the beginning of time. You know, god put Adam into the garden. He started naming things and putting things into order with the animals, and so it's like we're called to make things as best we can. And it's the same thing with worship. When we make worship intentional, we're going to worship him the best that we can, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:And with that it's just like I've been about to say at least is the boredom in church is something that's been plaguing, I think, a lot of churches and a lot of different bodies of Christ, and it's killing our intentionality in worship, not just in church, but outside of church as well, living a life of intentionality and intentional worship and it's just getting, when you're in church, specifically getting out of that audience mindset.
Speaker 1:I wrote down some notes, that's why I'm looking down, but pretty much I feel like a lot of the audiences in church, or like the congregations in churches, look up to the band and they're just like, okay, we're going to let them worship and we're just going to sit here and sing the song with them, but we're not actually going to mean the words that we sing. We're not actually going to mean the words that we sing. We're not actually going to, you know, ponder what we're actually speaking out, which is important to ponder what you speak, because your tongue, there's power in the tongue, so it's making sure that you are speaking. The words that you know align with what god has for your life, aligned with his word too. So you're not speaking death over anybody or anything. Yeah, um, but yeah, any thoughts on just getting people out of the audience, mindset, because it's yeah, no, I mean thinking of how to be so.
Speaker 2:We've talked about being intentional in our lives, um, just to connect with him and worship in whatever sphere in life. We've talked about making it a goal to practically sit down with him and have that quiet time and be intentional, aware that he lives inside of us, and so now we're talking about being intentional in actual traditional type of worship setting and I think, ways to foster that. I obviously feel like leading by example is the best way to lead others to. Am I on target? Yeah, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1:Look, keep going. You can tell me Keep going, I'm not Keep going. You can tell me Keep going, I'm listening.
Speaker 2:Okay that by me as another worshiper, I can help in my intentionality in worship when I'm not on the stage, you know, or whatever just by really truly having him as the focus and the goal and being activated and just focused and that kind of a thing is going to go a long way to essentially almost discipling and fostering and creating an atmosphere for worship and for and and just being, you know, intentional. I I also prepare myself beforehand as in a leadership capacity or even before I go to church, if I'm in the, if I'm not in a leadership by the traditional sense of the word, on the team or whatever. I really try to focus, um focus and be intentional in preparing my heart to be focused on Him when I'm getting ready to go into a worship environment.
Speaker 1:I think it's important to ask yourself the question. Lester said that Pastor Jeremy asked him a question. He's like why do you come to church? And it's like that's a great question. Because it's like if you don't know why you're going to church, it's probably because you don't really care why you're at church. You're just checking off a box.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think it's important for people that truly want to dive deep with God. Ask yourself the question why do you go to church and I'm not saying this like out of a place, like I don't want you in my church, if you don't want to be, or if you're just checking off a box? I think there's going to be benefit either way, because your spirit's going to receive things that you may not mentally.
Speaker 1:But I think it's also important to ask the question are you there because you're being intentional, or are you there because it's religious thing to do exactly, and I don't want my, my religious religiosity. Is that a word? I don't know, probably not, but I don't want religiosity I just don't want to be religious about it. I don't want to be doing out of habit.
Speaker 1:I just want to be doing it because I'm intentionally going to church to worship god, because he's worthy of all praise yeah and I want to be intentional with how I worship him when I'm at the church, because I want to give Him the praise to the best of my ability. I want to be intentional when I'm at home, to get into the presence so that when I go to church I'm not just being a sponge to worship and the anointing and all that stuff. I'm not there to receive, but I'm there to outpour. You know what I'm saying. When we gather together, it's not. I mean, we're there to receive and we're also there to, as a body of Christ, get together and just pour out our praise.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I think it's important to be to really know why. And I think another word we could use, a couple words we could use for intentionality is just knowing why and just asking yourself why do I do this? You know, why do I live? Why do I ask God what he wants to do? Why do I ask God what the goal is? Why do I do this? Intentionality is just a curiosity on why you're doing things, and it's having the answer to that.
Speaker 2:I really like that, Josiah. Yeah, I think that was. Another thing that was sparked in me in the last podcast was just, I really wanted to ask myself am I singing this song or loving this song? And it's okay for me to be attracted to certain songs and you know, just like anything else but am I doing it because it feels good to me? Or am I doing it because, wow, I'm just truly worshiping him and, of course, it's going to feel good when I worship him. So it's very similar, but it's going to feel good when I worship him so it's very similar, but it's just kind of a slight twist in the heart.
Speaker 1:There's also a lot of stuff. That's just like you know. Are people like doing this? Are they dancing because they like to dance? Are they doing it because that's what God's telling them to do? Are they being intentional with being with God every step of the way, like that? Or are they just doing it because they want to be seen and they're intentionally trying to be seen? Are they intentionally trying to be uh like in the spotlight, if that makes sense? Are they on the band because they are intentionally trying to get to a place of leadership? Are they intentionally being uh, an usher to, to be the first contact of people, to do whatever? It doesn't matter. It's just like there's an intentionality behind everything and it's just like when we're living a life of intentional worship, we're supposed to just intentionally seek God in everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So everything that we do, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yep. I don't even think I can say anything better than that. I think that I don't know I think that's the heart of, that's where your heart's at, and that's really what's what's coming out of you, josiah, and so many levels. It's just you're exuding that yeah, that's what we want and that that desire around people and I. I think we could have just started the podcast with that we should have.
Speaker 1:That's the fan. We got to it eventually. That's the mic drop boom yeah, we just wanted to live a life of worship to god, and it's this is for everybody, not just people that play instruments, not just people that do flags paint or anything like that. It's for people that may not seemingly do anything, but they are still called to do the same thing and to live a life of intentional worship.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, that's another thing, like I think it's both a beautiful thing, that's a I think it can be. It can be taken to an extreme, like when we went to fresh start it. Their worship is so exuberant and you physically get tired and I remember the last time they were there they were just pushed through the tiredness. Pushed through the tiredness and I I have worked hard not to be a striver person and to not strive and to do things in my flesh, so, but there's extremes to everything. Um, so I think when we're in, we're we're being intentional to worship. That means sometimes we're going to keep worshiping even when we're tired.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And sometimes, like we talked about on the way here, um, it may not look like. It may not look like I'm being intentional when I sit down and just lay back in his presence, or I'm, but it's all about my heart is intentional to push into him and to make it about him and not being what I mean we're talking about intentionality is a thing of the heart, so it's, it's yeah and I think when it comes to church stuff, it's very hard to tell what other people's intentions are, and that's why we're not the judge, because we don't know the heart of man.
Speaker 1:God knows the heart of the man. We're just called to worship him in spirit and truth, and so I'm not going to judge my other people at church. I'm not going to judge, you know, my husband or my wife. I don't know, you know just like I don't know what their intentions are truly, and so it's like I'm just going to be intentional with what I can do, and that's's to worship God with everything that I have. That's right, and live a life of worship.
Speaker 2:And that's why I think if you, as a leader, are intentional, that is going to catch on. If you're dealing with an environment where there's boredom or there's not intentionality, that your life speaks.
Speaker 1:Like Pastor.
Speaker 2:Tom Crandall's book says your life speaks. So you're that, like I can feel that coming out of you, that truth coming out of you.
Speaker 1:You just want to do it and it draws people to you.
Speaker 2:It'll affect other people and shift the atmosphere.
Speaker 1:And I think it's also when you're intentional. There's a cause that you're having. You're doing that for it's like. My cause is Jesus. And so it's like my cause is Jesus, yeah, and so it's like if I am so focused on my cause, I'm so intentional about worshiping Jesus with everything I do, my time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Especially. It's just like we're going to attract people that are intentional or want to be intentional with their time to be for Jesus. Yeah, so yeah, I don't know, I think that's pretty good.
Speaker 2:It's really good, josiah sure thing anything else?
Speaker 1:I don't got anything else, but I hope you guys do so. Feel free to message us on YouTube, instagram we do have plenty of places for you to message us and let us know your thoughts. But also, if you guys want to hear any topics, let us know, because we would like to you know, research your topics uh go in deep yeah, give us something to research and so talk to you guys later. Peace out.
