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Open Waters Podcast
32: Power of Living a Consecrated Life
The concept of consecration and the journey of becoming a Levite. Together with my co-host Josiah, we explore what it means to live as a sacrificial offering and the discipline it takes to dedicate yourself fully to the Lord. My personal testimony of a church revival brings the power of consecration to life, laying bare the transformative nature of a life dedicated to the Lord.
We get really personal in this episode, sharing not just our insights, but also our own spiritual struggles and journeys. We highlight the signs of a consecrated life, and how a burning desire to live for God might indicate you're on the right path. We also delve into the biblical verses from Romans 2 and 3, interpreting their deeper implications in today's context. The journey ends with a heartfelt prayer, hoping to inspire you to continue your path towards a more consecrated life. Journey with us, and let's see where this conversation leads us!
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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the Open Waters podcast Ghetto Style, ghetto.
Speaker 2:Style. What are you talking about? I'm here.
Speaker 1:Great, all right, welcome. What's your name?
Speaker 2:Josiah.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:What's your name?
Speaker 1:All righty Mine's Lisa.
Speaker 2:Hi, we're Josiah and Lisa. We're so excited to be talking with you again this week. We have Open Waters this Saturday, which will be the actual. Let me see. Look at the date. I should be prepared for this, because we do this every time the 18th of December, and we meet at 6 pm and it's open to all ages.
Speaker 1:It's wrong. It's actually not the 18th. This is the 25th of November.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:And we are going to be making sure that it's at 6 pm, so make sure you are looking at the time 6 pm on the 25th 25th, 25th, 25th, 25th.
Speaker 2:Forget what I said earlier.
Speaker 1:So make sure you're there, all right.
Speaker 2:Yay About your friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool. What's our top? What is our mobattis?
Speaker 1:That's your little brother.
Speaker 2:Massier clean. What are you, Josiah?
Speaker 1:I'm actually clean. You just came to my house.
Speaker 2:That's debatable.
Speaker 1:Are you kidding me? You're in my house right now and you're going to criticize me.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying Is it dirty? Does it look dirty? It's not dirty. I just think you're a, you're not. You're like a oh, it's all out there. Kind of a person Is it?
Speaker 1:Oh, all out there right now, Well.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Is it? Oh yeah, I'm not afraid.
Speaker 2:Well, I think when you, you know, go to other people's houses, when I go to other people's houses, okay, when I go to my mother's house, yes, I tend to be a little more lazy and that's okay.
Speaker 1:Cause that's what she's there for. Oh, to pick up after us, really.
Speaker 2:Just like Dan, I'm out, peace out. Sucka, I'm sorry. Anyway, I'll, I'll consider myself. And in between her, I'm not immaculate but I'm not messy.
Speaker 1:Oh, she's honest Nice.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:Of course I'm honest, josiah, I'm consecrated of God. I got to be honest.
Speaker 1:Oh I'm, I was honest too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you were All right. So what's our topic this week? Sia.
Speaker 1:Alrighty. So this week we're going to be talking about something similar to last week. Yes, last week, or two weeks ago, was us talking about being a living sacrifice, and it goes hand in hand with what we're talking about today, and it's it's again on this path, in this journey of becoming a Levi and what it means to be a Levi. I was talking to Manny Manuel the Rodriguez the other day, yes, um, about, and we're talking to each other about, what does it mean to be a Levi? And because you can't really become a, we're called to be high priests when it comes to worship, we're called to be priests in worship, and not high priests, but like priests in worship, um, but before you can become a priest, you have to become a Levi first, and so, and that requires a being a living sacrifice, and then what we're talking about today is being consecrated, set apart.
Speaker 1:And I think there is a difference in being a living sacrifice, because I believe that means you're burning with one, a fire, like I think I put this in the podcast we have. When fire burns, it usually burns for one cause, and that's to create heat around it and um, or to cook something, or it has one purpose. Fire has one purpose, but I believe consecration has um being set apart and have multiple, and it's different in the sense that I can be on fire for God and I can be a living sacrifice, but then being consecrated means I'm upholding values. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm pertaining to being a Levi. And I'm going to read you guys some of the quick verse, and it's in the Romans Um, and it's talking about its circumcision of the heart. And it's a person who is not a Jew. A person is not a Jew who is One only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly. And circumcision is circumcision of the heart by the spirit, not by the written code, such as a person's praise is not from other people but from God. And so you know, just with that little it's, if you want, but biblical reference, that is Romans, chapter 2, verses 28, to the end of the chapter, and you know it's important to you know the law is there for us, the code is there for us. As this put, it is for us to have like a outline of how our life should look like. But, as I believe it was, I forget who said I think it's Pastor Jeremy, but the law was given to us, was it Jeremy? I'm not sure I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, this was. Billy Graham said. This law was given to us not like, not to us specifically, but given to the Israelites and the Jews while ago the Ten Commandments, not as a way that we could do it on our own. And so this is where consecration happens, and it's being circumcision of the heart by the spirit, and so we get to be consecrated by God and circumcised spiritually by God and being set apart again by God.
Speaker 2:And so you know it's interesting that you say that, because when I was, you weren't born yet, caleb wasn't born yet, but Ben was born. We had we are church in. I lived in Nixie, missouri, and our church was in revival big time and there was this point at which we were doing some baptisms and I just really felt so I was, I was Sprinkled as a Catholic, as a baby Right. Then I, my parents, got saved, my aunt got saved, and then the whole family eventually started, you know, started going to church with her and got saved. And so at four years old, just because they were used to this traditional idea of baptizing, you know, you go to a church and to a new quotation marks religion, you get baptized. So I was baptized at four years old, but I had no idea or concept of what that really meant. So then when I was nine, I was at a Christian, a little Christian school in Florida, and I accepted Jesus from my teacher. Actually my second grade teacher, or sorry, my fifth grade teacher led me to the Lord and so I went to youth camp and then I got baptized and I really understood what that meant.
Speaker 2:But fast forward to when I was living in Nixon, missouri, had Benjamin. I was in my 20s, early 20s. I felt like the Lord was saying you need to be baptized because you need to have this circumcision of your heart. There's still some fleshly ways that you're living and I and there's something about that a prophetic act for me to go and just be baptized, like I'm being that whole act of being crucified with Christ, and you come back up, you know, and it's now you don't live, it's Christ in you. So this consecration process that the Lord took me through, and so I did do that and I know that from that moment on, something in the area of consecration, I've always been somewhat consecrated of God, but there was something about what I was being asked to do, what I felt I needed to do in that moment. That really has nothing to do with religion, but it was just a circumcision of my heart a consecrating act, prophetic act to the Lord.
Speaker 2:So I just think it's interesting that you bring that up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think a lot of things that happen in the physical not even I think I know that a lot of things that happen in the physical could be a representation and mirror of what God is trying to do in the spirit, or what the spirit is leading us to do in the physical. And so consecration is both, is a duality, it's a dual reality situation here. It's done by the spirit, but it is a physical result and a spiritual result. And for something for me that I've God's asked me to do is a physical action of cutting out secular music pretty much for the entirety of it, and that in turn, allows me to get much closer to God in my worship time, because everywhere I go as worship and it allows me to have that's like a part of the result, and it lets me just. When people come into my car, they know that this is a consecrated place, so they come in whenever I have. Wherever I have been made, you know, over, that's a consecrated place.
Speaker 1:And so and I think it sets me apart, like it, like we're called to be as Levites called to be set apart. There's a lot more things in the Old Testament. Samson was called to be a Levite. He wasn't allowed to drink wine. So if you've drank an alcohol, your automatically cut out. If you've touched anything dead, that cuts you out as well. I'm not sure how menace to kill that goes. If you kill the bug, that might even cut you out too. And so it's just like in. Now, since we're no longer under that law, we've been given consecration by the spirit, spiritually circumcised by the Holy Spirit. We're allowed to be Levites again, and so so beautiful, I love it, it's awesome.
Speaker 2:So I wanted to just real quick talk about what consecrated means the finished wine. Is that okay? Is that? I wanted to say one more thing.
Speaker 1:Sorry, and we're not. The entire reason to be consecrated is not to. I think a lot of people can take holy consecration or this role of being a Levite as a place to brag and people on the stage and people on the audience may think that one is better than the other, and that's not the case.
Speaker 2:We're serious A lot we are.
Speaker 1:And if, like in Romans, like this next little part says, is no one, like 311 says no one is righteous, not even one. There's not one who understands, there is no, no one who seeks God. They have all turned away. And so it's it's saying here, you know, pretty much like by ourself yeah, it's, it's not us. And I think once we get past ourselves and the pride that it comes with the human condition, we can truly be Consecrated. And so, again, this isn't like being consecrated isn't a part of being Allowing us to brag or to say we're better than one another, because that's a religious spirit, and that's what we're asking for. So we're asking to be set apart so that we can worship God and spirit in a truth and be who he's called us to be sorry.
Speaker 2:The thing is is we're already holy? This is already did it. Yeah so we don't have to do anything. We're not good like I was talking to somebody recently and they're like you know, I tell he's a leader. He's like I tell my people you need to be good people, you need to be good. He does with guys, good guys. That's true. The reality is we are only good because of Jesus, not because of what we do we consecrate ourselves because we love him?
Speaker 2:I always liken it to that, that oath and that covenant, that you enter into a marriage, it is.
Speaker 2:You do it because you stay set apart for that spouse, because you love them. You are married it doesn't make a difference of if you're married or not but what are you gonna do within that marriage covenant? So, with God, you're pure, you're clean, because not because of anything you do, but because of him, yeah, because the Holy Spirit, like you said, that makes you. Yeah, that that you are able to be in that place again. However, you do consecrate yourself because you have a flesh that you constantly war with. You live in a place that, unless that, that is that has been has sin and that sin.
Speaker 2:Tends to rule we. We have overcome, he has overcome the world, so we're of good cheer, but yet we still are in this place of war, warring against that and so, and even at that, being set apart and just relaxing him.
Speaker 1:We don't have to be in a state of warfare that's a sidebar and the the result of being consecrated like your pastor was saying, we have to be good people is the fruit of the Spirit and it's not we have to be it's. This is who I am.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And it's because we are set apart. We have now been set apart into this time and now we've been consecrated. When you're set apart, I think it's you're now choosing either to not be set apart anymore and to your. This is where a lot of fence sitting happens is where do I really want to be consecrated? Because it cuts out everything that this world says is fun or world says is attractive and instead of that we can, we expense it. But I think being truly consecrated requires you to choose the side that God wants us to choose, and that's his side the kingdom of heaven, and it results in the fruits of the spirit, and you can just tell when people are truly consecrated because they have love, joy, peace, patience and all of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that reminds me too. We were at Fresh Start Church in Arizona this past weekend and Pastor Kim was talking about the cycle of revival. It's an excellent sermon. She is very in your face, very, if I had to say an enneagram if you're into that enneagram eight, she's like a very strong personality. They do a lot of shouting but there's really good stuff that they have because they've been in revival for eight years but clearly their body was needing a reminder, message of consecration and talking about being devoted to that, being in that consecrated place.
Speaker 2:Your flesh doesn't like it. If your flesh likes that, it's not revival and so I think it is something that you have to. It's like we do it from a place of rest with the Lord, which is where we might have a little bit of a difference with Fresh Start but and just of what he's already done. They believe that, but we come from the place of rest and victory and all of that, but it still is a discipline of walking it out because your flesh doesn't want it. So you have to stay consecrated and we all want revival. Right, If we're going to have revival, we're going to act like it.
Speaker 2:We're going to have to empty ourselves of ourselves. We're going to have to because we still do have a flesh. We are going to have to be deliberate about consecrating ourselves.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't stop. It's not like, oh, I've done it, Now I've arrived. No, because we go from glory to glory to glory and if you stop, you will go. You'll start to slide. It's like you just will. You'll start to slide. It doesn't mean you can't rest Again. I believe it comes from a place of rest, a place of victory. You're not working for any kind of status with God, it's just that you will. It's like a stream. You're going to fall back.
Speaker 2:If you, your flesh is going to take you if you're not deliberately making sure you're walking by the Spirit and consecrated, and it's an effort, so it does take discipline, it just is, and that's why part of why I'm sure God used the word disciples because it did. The root word is that discipline, it's and it's, yeah, so I wanted to read.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask you what does consecrated mean? We keep saying it, so might as well tell him yeah.
Speaker 2:So it means, according to handy dandy Google would be consecrated, or consecrated means to make or declare sacred, to set apart. So there's an action, there's a setting apart. So that's our thing is we're just saying, yes, I'm going to be disciplined, I'm going to set myself apart for the service of God, to devote to a purpose in a very sincere manner. So it devotion, takes effort on our part. It doesn't determine whether we're worthy of salvation or who we are in Christ. We're in Christ, it's already done. But if we want to go from glory to glory to glory, and if we want to stay in this place of consecration spirit increasing us decreasing then we have to devote ourselves in a sincere manner.
Speaker 2:So then the question was what is the biblical meaning of consecration? And it says this is from Bibles for America or consecration is giving yourself to the Lord to become a living sacrifice, as Paul says in Romans 12, one which we talked about last week. I exhort you there, for brothers, through the compare compassion of God, to present your bodies the living sacrifice, holy, well, pleasing to God, which is your reasonable service. And so, yes, we are responsible for what our daily choices and our daily choices and our, our bodies it's, it's a sacrifice. It is a sacrifice. It does take sacrifice in our part to stay in that place of consecration and going. I want to go from glory to glory to glory. I want all that Jesus died for and so and that takes being set apart and single-minded and focused, yeah, disciplined.
Speaker 1:I encourage you guys to read if you guys have the time, which it's not really if you have the time, it's if you guys have the mental capacity for the wants to to read, but read. I would recommend you guys read Romans, chapter two and then three a little bit as well, because it talks a lot about in here about the world we live in. I mean you could even go one, two and three and talks about the world we live in and how there's just new ways that are coming out on how to do sin and how to do different things. In that and in here it also says that God is revealing the wickedness of the world and I do believe that is true and he's going to. It's his to deal with and so it's. It's not our job to go in to judge people. It's our job to be set a, set apart people, but it's his job to do to have the final say. He's the, he sits on the judgment seat.
Speaker 2:So yeah, Although I have to say we don't judge from a place that I'm better than you, but God does say you'll know people by their fruits and he does. There is a place for being called people higher and being called people higher and we can in fact instill a like, a place where we're like hey, this it's.
Speaker 1:It's not so much judgment, it's more so love and another spritz of the spirit, and it's called calling people out in love. You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying Speaking the truth in love, yeah speaking the truth in love is another way to put it too, and so I think that's another important part is being consecrated too is making sure you're. When you see something, don't just let it slip past, because at some point all those things you keep swiping around the rug is gonna come up again, and so make sure you call it out when you can. But that's pretty much what I thought this was cool too, though.
Speaker 2:The signs of a consecrated life. You like they call it a signs of a call to a consecrated life, but I believe we're all called to live a consecrated life and it says strong attraction or desire to radically live, give your life to God and his church, write the body. Strong attraction or desire to pray, a sense that mere earthly existence is insufficient and you are drawn to something more. Those are some of the things and that I think you'll find that that's probably a more Catholic definition, which you know. Obviously we're not Catholics, but I think there's some real things in there. I think, like I think you will feel, the Holy Spirit leads us to repentance, the Holy Spirit draws us and so I think you will, if you allow yourself to be quiet, you'll sense the nudge of the Lord calling you to this place of beauty with him and consecration.
Speaker 2:You know Moses had to go up to the mountain and set himself apart with God to be able to receive the law, to be able to receive the truth, to be able to have this encounter in an old testament time where God passed by him, in front of him. You know other disciples had to that were closest to Jesus. They had to go with Jesus to the mountain, the mountain transfiguration to. They had to go there and choose to go with him in relationship.
Speaker 2:New Testament. They're together to have this revelation of the Lord, greater revelation. You know that Jesus wanted to show them and stuff. So I think, I think there is, there is a draw. If you allow yourself, you'll sense that nudge and try giving into that nudge instead of, you know, just letting it pass you by and being lazy or whatever. You know and just notice when you are lazy, hey, because God has more for us and I want to be that Levite that gets to go into the presence of the Lord that Jesus paid a great price. I want to go from glory to glory to glory.
Speaker 1:And it's this level of being a Levite and then being called to become a priest and a menstrual like men will like to talk about, and becoming this person that just gets to worship God with everything that he is, and that's what we're going after.
Speaker 2:So anyway, if you guys enjoyed this.
Speaker 1:Leave a rate and let us know in the Q and A afterward. In On Spot or Pile he says a QA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so let us know. We thought that's so cool. We love you, guys and God. I just thank you that you bless each of our listeners with the strength and the strength of spirit to pursue you and to pursue a consecrated life In Jesus' name. And by the way, Josiah, fun fact for you, my name Lisa actually means oath of God or consecrated of God. Nice, One of the reasons I love my name.
Speaker 1:Crazy, there you go Bye.
